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Simplifying the language - oneness/separation
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Mário [Hootless Crew] Aug 10.
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Exactly, Frank and lilar. Our "problem" is not having a word that points directly to it. All that is needed from us is to be ourselves. Sure, everybody says that, but there is a logical line to follow. Where anything really exists? Now. Does the p...
We are both the witnessing and the witnesser...it's awareness that is aware of itself, as Adyashanti beautifully said. And that is here all of the time - whether you are conscious of it or not. That's what never changes - the real you.
Frank: I agree, we are awareness.
Mario: What I meant by "I'm not looking for it" is that I don't sit on the bench(metaphore here again) and wait for oneness to appear because it's already here. Now that I read my message again, I don't even know ...
And Mario please correct me if I'm off base here, but I would also suggest that there is no witnesser, there is only witnessing. Thinking we're the witness simply makes us into a "self", another concept. We are simply in the act of witnessing.
"I never experimented oneness. I'm not looking for it"
We are all looking for it, consciously or unconsciously. We just give other names to it. It is like that technique of asking what do you really want from any goal. For example, do you want mo...
Yes, I understand that the two last wants ultimately has to do with the experience of unity, instead of the illusion of being a separate individual.
My aim is not for the moment to experience myself as Brahman. My aim is to live a full life, be a...
Mario: I don't know if I should ask this question in this forum. Usually I ask those questions in Eckhart Tolle discussion forum, but you seem to "know"( I mean here experience) a lot about presence and oneness. I never experimented oneness. I'm n...
The shortest way for me to get an experiential understanding of Wanting Separation was to first experience Oneness, then to notice how you are pulled from that into identifying with what you do, have or think. To experience Oneness, just ask yours...
Mario, I don't appreciate your defending, attacking way of replying to my post.
I wont comment on where in YOU I assume that comes from, thats not my business and it should not be yours to play my master, cause your not.
" Writing this email took...
Mario: I 'm starting to understand those wants now. Excellent!!! Thank you again
I thought this might help Ole. I really like Guy Finley. His goal is to teach to let go, but he uses a more intellectual path. His method is to show what is, like Lester used to do. It is more or less like Lester with a language for our days. Anyw...
Once upon a time you were One. Then you decided to contract into being separated. As you cannot BE separated, you want to be separated. Wanting to be separate has a feeling associated to that, and you decided you were that feeling. It is a lie, yo...
Mario: Very very little do I feel alone. And when I do, I usually link it to the want of security. As for feeling special, different, it's usually when I feel pride which I'm able now to spot as it arises but it's true that I don't link it to any ...
"I never thought of the want of oneness when I feel attracted to certain things or certain people. It's usually the want of control or approval."
Do you feel like you are alone sometimes, separated from the world? That's wanting Oneness.
Do you w...
I see where you are coming from, and it is all useless. I say that just because I am assuming you want to release and not writing a philosophy book. If yes, I've been there, and it goes nowhere fast.
"But this level of philosophical abstraction w...
Hmmmmm, I never thought of the want of oneness when I feel attracted to certain things or certain people. It's usually the want of control or approval. It's true that I don't usually find wants of oneness a lot but wants of separation I find quite...
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