DROPPING AVERSIONS

[Lisa [Hootless Crew]]

Now, this is going to sound off the wall, but get this...after being a vegetarian for nearly 15 years and not being able to walk past a butchers, let alone handle meat; I have suddenly found I can cut up and prepare the stuff !!!!

I will never eat it again for ethical reasons, but I actually carved bits of roast chicken for the cat.

I totally shocked myself....so what aversions have dropped away for you since releasing am curious :)

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

cool :)

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

I'll tell you one aversion that is dropping away more and more: the aversion to people :D

[Lisa [Hootless Crew]]

Replying to yourself I see :)

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

Sometimes I do feel split!

[lilar]

Excellent discussion! I just realized that I have a lot of aversions. When I'm fully released, my aversions suddenly melt away. But this lasts only a few minutes lol When I spot an aversion, I usually try to spot which want it's coming from, then I let it go. But I haven't noticed yet aversions that drop by themselves.
I know it's not the topic, but I'm curious to know Lisa what are the ethical reasons about being a vegetarian. I'm finding myself staying away from the red meat for health reasons, but it seems to me that ethical reasons are not just about health. Is it because of the bad treatments of animals?

[Lisa [Hootless Crew]]

Yep Lilar, I should have mentioned health reasons too I guess. At some stage I must have made a decision not to eat meat etc, and the need just dropped (long before I discovered releasing)....I then must have developed an aversion to it, which now is dropping!

I never could stand seeing raw meats etc, as my mind would show me the live animal (thanks mind) and I would get nausea as a response.

I still don't 'like' doing it but can cook it for others or prepare it now, which is a huge difference. Once meat has been produced, it might as well feed something!

Yep ethically, it is the abuse of creatures that share our planet....I have always had an affinity with animals, we are one with them in nature etc.

For health I never wanted my body to be made up of dead animals karmically, sounds gruesome but thats the biggest reason. Every cell is made up of what we injest etc.

And before anyone lampoons me for that as a judgement...lol...it was only ever for me personally. I have never been one to try to influence others on what they do, as that is their path/choice and would be quite wrong.

Lester does talk somewhere about this, will try and find it. :)

[lilar]

THank you Lisa for your explanations. The thing is that sometimes I feel drawn to a vegetarian diet when I think of the animal itself being eaten. However, sometimes I think that nature is like that. When I see animal documentaries, I see Nature in its raw state. I see tigers shredding zebras with their teeth and while my mind sometimes condemns the "bad" tigers, when I truly think about it, this is how nature is made. However, I don't like how the animals are being treated before being slaughtered and I don't like when people hunt for pleasure. It's strange how sometimes my mind makes a problem out of something as simple as a choice loooooool

[Lisa [Hootless Crew]]

Yes I resonate with that! I can't watch such things. Nature is quite fierce! Someone said to me once, as in nature whatever we can catch/gather with our own hands without manmade props nets/guns etc we are meant to eat. And iin open countryside only not fenced in areas. That would make a freat ducumentart experiment.

So, I guess that rules Mconalds as have you ever seen a person catch and kill a cow with his bare hands LOL...

To comment on Pers post too, dropping an aversion to people, its odd but I am going the other way at the moment, not wanting to go out and socialize, becoming more and more insular...a passing phase maybe, as I am normally a bit of a social butterfly....who knows and who cares anyway he he..

Can't find the part I wanted about Lester and eating meat...it was on the gf forum on a thread I did there, but I de-registered so cannot get to it...:(

[Tom Verbroekken [Hootless Crew]]

I do remember Lester talking about it in one of the recordings...can't find it in his books. He said the animals were like pets...so would you eat your pet? Or something like that.

And he did say this in the Ultimate Keys To Freedom:

"The healthiest foods are fruits and vegetables from the
flower of the plant. The unhealthiest foods are flesh."

Just fyi, I do eat meat...and like it. lol. And I like veggie food as well. Just go with what seems best for you. Any taboo about food imo is unnecessary as that creates aversions. That's like saying: "You can't eat chocolate." What will you be lusting for, unconsciously? :)

Paul McKenna's 4 golden rules really resonate with me, ie. eat what you like instead of forcing yourself to eat stuff (diets), eat consciously (slowly) and stop when you're full. Funnily enough this changes your food choices to healthier onces because you truly are tasting your food better. I used to like pizzas a lot but these days I prefer something I can prepare as a meal instead. Microwave food disappeared from my life as well thanks to Paul's system.

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

As Tom has noticed, I like to eat a lot of food and I like buffets :)

[Lisa [Hootless Crew]]

I agree with that Tom, it was weird how meat dropped for me, and I never missed it. I have friends that try to drop it but still crave it, to me that indicates they are not meant/or ready to do so...

Per imagine never ever being able to eat in a buffet again he he he he

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

It would be tough but I think I can handle it :P