Allowing approval from others - And fear as the deepest emotion?

[Ole]

I was releasing on a very angry feeling that a otherwise buried incident got reactivated today.
At one point I felt I didnt need A,C,S and it was like the "approval button" was "dead". I found out that if I allowed myself to get approval (from them) it brought me a step further. This is the same as to "let go of wanting to be disapproved of" (the negative wants). But doing it as allowing approval gave a much better shift. Like when you come out of anger to someone, and you finally allow their approval to be received again. I found that this can also be done with solace, to allow that.
(just an idea to work on the negative wants, where I can find the wording a little weird, it can be hard to let go of "wanting insecurity", but easier to allow security be )

Later I found FEAR underneath the anger. And I realized that as w/s is the deepest want, then fear must be the deepest feeling that gives rise to all the others in some way. That contradicts the emotion scale, where apathy is at the bottom. But it is said in most spiritual schools that basically there is only love and fear. And there is some truth to that, I think...

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

Nice Ole!

The reason for Apathy being at the bottom of the chart is because that is where you are suppressing the most, maximum level of suppression, and there you are unable to feel anything. In peace you are not suppressing anything. Fear of death could be one of a number the feelings you are suppressing while in apathy.

[lilar]

Ole: Yes, fear is underneath all emotions. The want of security is indeed the deepest want. I noticed everytime I release on anger, the want of security comes up, first disguised as a want of control or approval and then becomes very obvious.

Did you do the clean up procedure?

I noticed that whenever I do the clean up procedure, I have no problem letting go of the want of control, or the want of approval or even the want of security. AS for the clean up questions..... the Yes is not unequivocal lol especially to the questions related to feeling only love and trust towards the person.

[Mário [Hootless Crew]]

"it can be hard to let go of "wanting insecurity", but easier to allow security be "

Yes, I agree, but wanting security is the same as wanting to survive, so the recommended wording for the opposite want is wanting to die. This wording brings up different stuff, a lot of which we don't want to see.

"The want of security is indeed the deepest want."

The deepest want is wanting to be separate. If you are not wanting to be a separate body-mind, there´s no fear of losing it, aka dying, so nothing to make you feel insecure.
This want is hard to see in the beginning, as is wanting to be one. That's why Larry puts it on an advanced course. But Hale puts in the basic course you have, that's why I am mentioning.

Mário

[Ole]

Yes, you could say that I did the clean up, LIlar. But in my own way, just releasing on what is most "loaded" at the time. if I cant find any, I do the "check questions" and it usually stirs something up. It was amazing. I did not think I would be able to release my feelings about a family gathering where I have just arrived. I released many hours yesterday and as the train took 4 hours I also released all the time in the train. I regarded it as the worst of all experiences to go to the family thing, a lot of anger about being falsely accused, but at an hour before I arrived I discovered that I was almost free of it, still emotions came but it was more like riples on the surface. Somehow it was a little scary, where were all the emotions, the anger? I found that I must somehow miss those familar emotions, "needing" something to hold on to. What was this strange peace...? My plan had been to go there and make a big confrontation, and my plan is still to do this. And I have told some of them that this is what is going to happen. But I feel happy and peaceful, - for no reason. Its like I already have lived out the emotions that the confrontatioin will bring (and which it now might not bring :-)
I think that this might be a mile stone in my releasing carrier.

[Per "djpjgj" [Hootless crew]]

:D

[lilar]

Ole: And it keeps getting better doesn't it !!!

Mario: You say the deepest want is that of separation. I could've sworn I read somewhere that the deepest want was the want of security namely the fear of death. That's why we need to release on the fear of death. I get from time to time the want of seperation but it's less frequent than the w/s, w/a , w/c Maybe it's burried underneath lol

[Mário [Hootless Crew]]

It was probably on the first CD of The Way. That talk was focused on fear of dying. I think we might sometimes lose some context of the talks because of edition, I don't know. It seems there's some agreement between Hale and Larry about what Lester's content to release. Notice they sell the same talks. I know that there are contents they don't release for one reason or another. I am the happy owner of a very rare DVD from Lester that I think there are only 40 copies around. Thanks to my shopping-compulsion :) When a new releasing product is released, I buy it. And they are all great, no exceptions.
There are other talks where Lester says that "after releasing the fear of dying, up comes the agony of wanting separation", or something like that.

"That's why we need to release on the fear of death. I get from time to time the want of seperation but it's less frequent than the w/s, w/a , w/c. Maybe it's burried underneath lol "

Hehe, it is. But the problem is the opposite. You don't get it from time to time, it is here all the time, much more frequent then the other wants. That's why we don't see it. It is this feeling of "I want to be a Lilar" "I want to be this wanting control" "This issue is about me" "This means something about me" "The releaser is me" Me, me, me. This is wanting separation.
The easiest place to see it is to look at what you reject. Another place it is hiding in plain sight is in disgust. What is disgust except extreme wanting separation from what is disgusting. Think about what is very disgusting to you and enjoy some wanting separation. Lester points that subtly when he talks about the body being a garbage-producing machine. Then he list some garbage we produce. We don't even want to hear it. What happens when you are having a delicious lunch and someone thinks it is interesting to talk about some type of body disposal product. They are just words! What difference does it make? Why do a lot of doctors hear the same words in the same situation and don't care? Obviously the words are not the problem. The problem is the extreme wanting separation that comes up when some people listen to some word.

Mário